专访第十八届上海国际葡萄酒品评赛评委，葡萄酒大师Jane Skilton MW

第十八届上海国际葡萄酒品评赛（以下简称SIWC）于2024年6月17-21日在上海成功举办。作为SIWC特邀媒体，我们采访到了本届重量级评委，葡萄酒大师Jane Skilton MW。

Jane Skilton MW在伦敦开始了她的葡萄酒生涯，1988年获得了WSET文凭，并获得了干邑学院和Frescobaldi奖学金。她于1993年成为葡萄酒大师，2006年，她创立了葡萄酒教育公司，新西兰葡萄酒与烈酒学院，为从业者和消费者提供WSET资格证书。该校教授所有WSET级别的课程，是新西兰唯一一所授权教授4级文凭的学校。她是2023年新西兰食品和葡萄酒领域最具影响力的50位女性之一，作为一名演讲者和公认的领军人物，她在葡萄酒领域指导其他女性。她是《勃艮第内幕》的新西兰撰稿人，《独立葡萄酒月刊》的联合编辑，并为新西兰和海外的多家葡萄酒出版物撰稿。

以下是采访视频的文字整理。

1.First of all, please introduce yourself.

1.首先，请介绍一下你自己。

My name is Jane Skilton, and I'm originally from England, but I've lived in New Zealand for the last 25 years. I've been a Master of Wine for 30 years, and I've never done anything else—I've always had a job in wine.

我的名字是Jane Skilton，我原籍英国，但我在新西兰已经居住了25年。我成为葡萄酒大师已经30年了，而且我从未做过其他工作，我一直都在葡萄酒行业工作。

2.So far, what about the quality of the wine samples in this competition? Are there any wines that impressed you?

2.到目前为止，对这次比赛中的葡萄酒样品质量有何看法？有哪些葡萄酒给你留下了深刻印象？

The competition is very well run, but I think some of the wines may have looked a little bit old because, you know, obviously the last four or five years have been very difficult trading. We've had some really lovely, bright, fresh, juicy red wines that have been a highlight. There have been some quite nice white wines too—Chardonnay, some Sauvignon Blanc that looks good as well. So, there have been some really good parts, but there are some wines which are maybe a little old.

这次比赛组织得非常好，但我觉得一些葡萄酒可能看起来有点老了，因为显而易见，过去的四五年非常艰难。我们品尝到了一些非常可爱、明亮、新鲜、多汁的红葡萄酒，这是一个亮点。还有一些相当不错的白葡萄酒，比如霞多丽和一些看起来不错的长相干白葡萄酒。所以，有些部分真的很出色，但也有一些葡萄酒可能有点老了。

3.Maybe you can expect today or tomorrow to taste another wine.

3.也许你可以期待今天或明天品尝到的其他酒款。

Yeah, I think tomorrow we're doing the trophies, and I've got some more judging this afternoon, but hopefully we'll find some more good wines.

是的，我想明天我们会评选最佳酒款，今天下午我还有更多的品评任务，但希望我们能找到更多好的葡萄酒。

4.This is your first time to be the judge of SIWC, so what do you think of this competition?

4.这是你第一次担任SIWC的评委，觉得这个比赛如何？

It's super well run. So, I've done lots of other competitions in China—this is probably my 10th wine competition—but this is really, really well organized. So, it's kind of much, it makes my job much easier if the wines are in the right order, if the glasses, the people in the back, team, super well organized. So, you know, it makes it much easier, much nicer.

这个比赛组织得非常好。我在中国参加过很多其他的比赛，这可能是我第十次参加葡萄酒比赛，但这个比赛真的非常、非常有条理。所以，这让我的工作变得更加轻松，如果葡萄酒摆放有序，杯子、后台团队都非常有条理。你知道的，这使得一切都变得更加轻松、更加愉快。

5.What change have you observed in the wine market in China this time?

5.这次在中国葡萄酒市场上观察到了哪些变化？

China and we have a strong relationship with it, so I'm hoping if I get to go and look around some wine shops and see some more New Zealand wine. I haven't, sorry, I haven't had a chance to have a look yet.

我们与中国有着密切的关系，所以我希望如果有机会去一些酒店逛逛，看看更多的新西兰葡萄酒。不好意思，我还没有机会去看看。

6.Do you have the plan?

6.你有计划吗？

I have a plan because I'm staying on for a few days after the competition and go and have a look around. So yeah, I just kind of have a look.

我有个计划，因为比赛结束后我还会留下几天去四处看看。所以是的，我打算去看看。

7.Maybe next time I see you, I can ask you this question again.

7.也许下次见到你时，我可以再问问你答案。

Exactly because none of us have traveled, have we, for the last three or four years? So yes, first trip.

正是如此，因为我们都在过去三四年里没有出去旅行过，对吧？所以，这是第一次出行。

8.As a professional wine judge, in your opinion, what are the most important skills that a judge needs to have?

8.作为一名专业的葡萄酒评委，在你看来，评委需要具备哪些最重要的技能？

Oh, okay. So you need to be open-minded. It's a team; you're sitting on a panel with other people, other wine professionals, and each of them has their own skills. So judging wine is only part of it. You have to listen to other people—they might have a different opinion than you. At the end of the day, you have to get a result that works for everybody. So part of the process is to make sure that everyone is heard. You know, you have to listen to everyone else, you have to listen to the trainee judges. I've got some really good wines on my panel yesterday and today. It's a collaborative process, it's not a single person judging. So I think you have to be open-minded and not try and decide what you think the wines are. There are some grape varieties I don't like, but when I judge, I have to put my personal opinion aside and just treat every wine equally.

哦，好吧。你需要心胸开阔。这是一个团队，你和其他人一起坐在评审小组中，其他葡萄酒专业人士，每个人都有自己的技能。所以，评判葡萄酒只是其中的一部分。你必须听取别人的意见——他们可能有不同于你的看法。最终，你必须得到一个对所有人都适用的结果。因此，过程的一部分是确保每个人的意见都被听到。你知道，你必须听取其他人的意见，听取培训评委的意见。我在昨天和今天的小组中品尝到了一些非常好的葡萄酒。这是一个协作过程，而不是一个人进行评判。所以，我认为你必须心胸开阔，不要试图决定你认为葡萄酒是什么样的。有些葡萄品种我不喜欢，但当我评判时，我必须把个人意见放在一边，公平地对待每一种葡萄酒。

9.In the competition, it takes a short time for the judge to taste a wine, but as we all know, some wines need time to pre-open. So how do you ensure fairness in judging the quality of the wines?

9.在比赛中，评委需要在短时间内品尝葡萄酒，但众所周知，有些葡萄酒需要提前开瓶。那么如何确保评判葡萄酒质量的公平性呢？

Oh, that's a very hard question. I think most people buy wine, open it, and drink it. There are only a very small number of wines that you need to keep in cellar—a really small amount—and maybe they are not the ones that get entered into wine competitions. Wines that get entered into competitions are really delicious bottles of wine. Most consumers will buy them, take them home, and open them. So we wouldn't necessarily say, you know, you might say, "Oh, you need to decant the wine or prepare it," but that's not very fair. Every wine has to be good when it's opened. Sorry, you can't be favoring some things over other things. So no, you just open them and taste them.

哦，这是个很难回答的问题。我认为大多数人买葡萄酒后会直接打开并饮用。只有很少一部分葡萄酒需要保存在酒窖中，这部分非常少，可能这些酒不会参加葡萄酒比赛。参赛的葡萄酒通常是非常美味的酒，大多数消费者会购买它们，带回家然后打开。所以我们不一定会说你知道的，可能会说“哦，你需要醒酒或准备”，但这不是很公平。每瓶酒在打开时都应该是好的。抱歉，你不能偏袒某些酒。所以不，你只需要打开它们并品尝。

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